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Failure Retreving application id for user profile application proxy

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I'm getting two messages when I click manage on the User Profile Service Application then look up the correlation ID:

Getting Error Message for Exception System.Web.HttpUnhandledException (0x80004005): Exception of type 'System.Web.HttpUnhandledException' was thrown. ---> Microsoft.Office.Server.UserProfiles.UserProfileApplicationNotAvailableException:This User Profile Application's connection is currently not available. The Application Pool or User Profile Service may not have been started. Please contact your administrator.     at Microsoft.SharePoint.Portal.UserProfiles.AdminUI.ProfileAdminPage.get_CurrentApplicationProxy()     at Microsoft.SharePoint.Portal.UserProfiles.AdminUI.ManageUserProfileServiceApplicationBase.OnPreRender(EventArgs e)     at System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal()     at System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStag...

Failure retrieving application ID for User Profile Application Proxy 'User Profile Service Application Proxy': Microsoft.Office.Server.UserProfiles.UserProfileApplicationNotAvailableException: UserProfileApplicationNotAvailableException_Logging :: UserProfileApplicationProxy.ApplicationProperties ProfilePropertyCache does not have 2f4cb309-6db2-40ef-9402-9d385a478202     at Microsoft.Office.Server.Administration.UserProfileApplicationProxy.get_ApplicationProperties()     at Microsoft.Office.Server.Administration.UserProfileApplicationProxy.get_AppID()

I have done a lot of googling and come up with unsuccessful answers. I have deleted and recreated the user profile service application more times then I care to count following harbar's guide. The User Profile Service and User profile sync service are both running. Checked that the app pool is running too and it is. I really think the answer has to do with both of the error messages, not just one or the other, but as for what to look for I am at a loss.



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